Blue Line Baby: Chronicles of a Cop’s Kid is a lighthearted look at growing up as the child of a California Highway Patrol Officer in the 1970’s and 1980’s. The career of the author’s father, Dale Waaler, is relived through the eyes of his daughter in this tale of a career spanning over 30 years from the LAPD to CHP. From life in the academy, to traveling abroad with former President Ronald Reagan, or the delicate art of dating a cop’s daughter, and even the Secret Service manhandling a tardy young man at their front door – these personal tales provide a fascinating glimpse into life of growing up with an officer of the law.
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Chuck: Welcome to a belated start time. Sorry for the technical…we had some glitches with the Facebook page, but we’re streaming live on Facebook, the Chuck Harold Facebook page as well and it’s been shared by our guest. Christa, how are you?
Christa: I’m doing well, thank you.
Chuck: Now, this is a very special edition, we’re going to call this the Blue Line edition, because of lot of things with police officers today. We’re going to be speaking with Christa about Blue Line Baby, which, can we see that Jarvis, can we see that shot? That’s great. It’s chronicle of a cop’s kid, you were a cop’s kid in the 70s…
Chuck: And I think this is really, I only read a little bit because I was kind of pressed for time today, but it’s really fascinating. Tell me a little bit about your daughter because this is…how we got connected was this. I’m tweeting, you know, what, those ridiculous tweets I do Paul all the goofy stuff I do right…
Paul: Yeah, well I’ve turned you off so…
Chuck: You have turned me off you little…
Paul: Oh, yeah.
Chuck: Mad bastard anyway, so I’m tweeting something about the show and register for a free show and so on and instantly when I hit this button, some young lady replies, you should have my mom on your show and I go “Oh, okay, well that’s, that’s a pretty bold. ”
Christa: She’s my agent.
Chuck: Yeah and I replied, “Well, I’d like to have her on our show” and then she gave me a link and I looked at it and that’s how we got connected.
Chuck: Tell us about your daughter, because this is going to tie into something we’re going to do in a minute it’s really, it’s amazing what she does.
Christa: Yes. She’s an amazing young lady, my daughter Carissa has developmental disability, but she has an amazing connection to the Law Enforcement Community through Special Olympics and the Law Enforcement Torch Run and Law Enforcement has been raising money for Special Olympics for the past 30 years. It raised half a billion dollars.
Chuck: Half a billion?
Paul: Yeah, yeah.
Christa: Half a billion dollars.
Chuck: Oh, my…
Christa: For Special Olympics, so she started an organization called Athletes for Officers as a way to give back to Law Enforcement and to kind of help them in times of need. So she raises money for officers that are injured, she helps pay for ballistic vests for K-9s, she helps raise money to purchase new K-9s for departments, so it’s pretty amazing. She’s an amazing young lady.
Chuck: You say there is this, I don’t want to call it disability, but I would never notice looking at her talking to her or…
Chuck: Watching the post and stuff, I mean it’s amazing is she like 15-ish?
Christa: She’s 23.
Chuck: Oh, she’s 23.
Chuck: I thought oh, I got your other daughter mixed, okay I made a mistake all right so, but I mean, she started this very young right and for a young person to do that, that’s…
Christa: She did, you know, she, her very dear friend was a Law Enforcement Officer who was killed in the line of duty and this was her way of honoring him was to start Athletes for Officers in his memory and so it’s very near and dear to her heart and she works very hard to make sure that her officers know how much they are loved and supported.
Chuck: Now this is a complete weird coincidence, Paul because of the book I was doing. The interview, this was booked couple of weeks ago and a couple of weeks before that I got contacted by another organization, the Patriotic Service Dog Foundation.
Paul: Yeah, yeah.
Chuck: Remember, when we had veterans moving forward that was the other service dog…
Paul: Yeah, yeah.
Chuck: …foundation, right. So, there’s just this great connection between the service dogs and police and the Blue Line, all that kind of stuff and so I want to interrupt your show just for a minute.
Chuck: We’re going to go to our little Skyping guest here, Tom Tackett, is Tom on there Jarvis? Can you hear me, Tom?
Tom: Yes, I can.
Chuck: Hey, welcome, welcome to the show.
Tom: Thank you.
Chuck: So, Tom, Tom runs the Patriot Service Dog Foundation and he is at tackettservicedogs.com, and we want, Tom wanted to talk about the American Ride & Musical Festival that’s coming up this May 21st, 22nd this Saturday, Sunday, is that right?
Tom: Correct. It’s Armed Forces Day, Saturday.
Chuck: Yeah and where, in Orange County where is that going to be?
Tom: It’s going to be at Lake Irvine, Lakeview Park.
Chuck: Yeah and I was speaking with you guys on the phone yesterday, give us a little bit about how, you know, how it works so we, you know, we have a ride down there. We, it all culminates at the music festival it’s really an interesting…
Tom: Yeah, it’s going to be a fun two day event, it’s called The America Ride And Music Festival and it starts Saturday morning with a ride from Lifestyle Cycles in Anaheim to the event site and it’s going to be, we’re hoping 500 to 1000 motorcycles and the City of Anaheim has really gotten behind this and they’re going to close down State College Boulevard, which is where Lifestyle Cycles is and so we can stage the bikes and then the highway patrol is going to escort us down the freeway to the event site led by the Anaheim fire truck and then fueled by the fallen organization, which is five charger vehicles that have all of the 9/11 victims on the cars.
Chuck: Oh, I saw those, in Glendale, yeah, those are right, those are right amazing vehicles…
Tom: Yeah, it’s really cool.
Chuck: Very nice and this is all to raise money for the Patriot Service Dog Foundation.
Tom: Correct, which we train dogs for our wounded veterans, service dogs.
Chuck: Now your service dogs, you talk about the physically wounded and the other organization we talked about was PTSD, do you do both or mostly the wounded, physically…
Tom: No, we do PTSD, TBI and Mobility.
Chuck: Excellent. Now we have a little video, it’s about five minutes on, Jarvis, you got that video ready and Tom I want to play this, this is a video about your organization and…
Tom: Okay, great.
Chuck: By the way everybody is free to come to this, right. You can get your bike and come on down and join?
Tom: Oh, absolutely, you don’t have to be a rider at all. It’s open to the family, it’s going to be kids zone. It’s really going to be fun, it’s going to be music all-day, both days, various guest speakers, motivational speakers, gosh, everything that you could imagine of being at a festival like this.
Chuck: Well, Paul that little three wheeler you bring to the grocery store and shop with you, you could bring it in and if you want to.
Paul: Yeah, I know yeah.
Chuck: Yeah, you should get that, put some little…
Paul: Speedy Gonzales.
Chuck: All right Jarvis, can you roll that video and we’ll be back in about five minutes, take a look at this about the Patriotic Service Dog Foundation.
Glen: A lot of the problems I had with PTSD, I didn’t want to be around people. I avoided loved ones, I couldn’t hold a relationship.
Katie: I would go home, not have any energy. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night, I wasn’t working out I wasn’t performing well at work, all the answers I could find weren’t helping me at all.
Milan: In 2011, I was coming back from my Listening Post Observation Post Patrol and I, stepped on an IED losing my right leg and my left leg, right leg above the knee, left leg below the knee. I’ve been diagnosed with mild PTSD, I was sick and tired of trying to being a grown man and I drop a fork and I can’t pick it up. I crossed path with Tom Tack, in Tackett Service Dogs and I entertained the idea of getting a service dog.
Tom: So he came to me and interviewed him and decided we would get him a dog and train the dog for him at no charge.
Milan: I was fortunate enough to get my own dog, you know, I always wanted to help out, other guys that have been through the same thing I have, so, you know, making the transition over the training was easy.
Tom: So we trained several dogs for these veterans that needed them. These guys really couldn’t afford to pay for these dogs and I wasn’t about to turn them away because they didn’t have the other money. Some friends of ours watched what we were doing and approached me and said, “Tom, you know, we want to help. Why don’t we start a non-profit to help support Tackett Service Dogs, so we could provide and train more dogs and do a better job at it, and so we did and we named it Patriotic Service Dog Foundation.
Milan: Patriotic Service Dog Foundation is a non-profit organization that provides service dogs fully trained at little or no cost to the veterans. It’s kind of the infancy phase of, you know, something like this where, you know, it’s all about just getting the name out there and trying to raise funds that we can actually help these guys.
Del: The training process for a dog is a minimum of a year and a half to be certified. The cost of a fully trained service dog is $20,000. It’s a lot of money, but that’s food, that’s vet dose, that’s training and these dogs are with us 24/7, and we’re not receiving any grants from the government, any help from the State or anything. This is all 100% donation funded. Training of a service dog depends on the needs of the person all the dogs are required to perform a minimum of three tasks that mitigate somebody’s disability, so for instance like Milan’s dog Brody she is a mobility animal, so she is trained to go get keys for him, so he won’t fall out of his chair if he is reaching for something. If there is a light switch he can’t reach she’ll run over there and flip the light switch on or off for him. Then you’ve got your psychiatric service dogs that we do especially for a lot of the guys with PTSD.
Glen: The name of my dog is Indi, short for Independence. Once we created a bond, she brought me back into the world. She helped me get into more social situations easier. She helped me feel more comfortable with living alone by myself. She wakes me up out of bad dreams, she gives me the reason to live again.
Del: Dobby is there, I know she’s going to watch my back and I don’t have to be afraid. It really brings joy to my life.
Tom: Patriotic Service Dog Foundation’s motto is “22 to zero” and what that represents is 22 veterans a day commits suicide and our goal is to make that zero. To this point anybody that’s received a service dog from us has not committed suicide. We have found that the veterans that have completed our course and have their dogs at home with them have gotten off most of the medications if not all of them.
Milan: One of the primary painkillers I was on was Methadone, so I had heroin withdrawals for about two months. Just trying to get off of that medication and I will never take that again, I will never take any of that medication again…
Richard: I just feel lot more comfortable having a big German shepherd with you and I’ve found that it helped better have than half the medication they try to give you.
Glen: As a veteran, I was hurting for way too long, and I know there’s, other people out there. Just like me, my brothers and sisters that are in pain and if I can spread some of this awareness myself and if we can do it through Patriotic Service Dog Foundation that know that these animals help people, they help me, and I’m not the only one in pain, if anyone is out there looking for one of these dogs that needs help, you come to this organization you talk to Tom Tackett and I guarantee you’re going to create a bond and you’re going to find that brotherhood you once had and it’s one of those things that once you get that again you’re going to feel alive again.
Tom: We would love to help them if we can simply by going into patrioticservicedogfoundation.org just contact us and if we can help we absolutely will.
Katie: Dobby, she means the world to me, and I’m trying hard to give her as much of a good life as she’s given me. I don’t know how I was able to live without her in the past and this organization.
Milan: A lot of people don’t get to go home and say, you know, I’ve really affected somebody’s life today. It’s such a great feeling to be able to do that every single day, I couldn’t ask for anything else. Plus, I get to help guys that have been through what I’ve been through, and you know it’s kind of like helping me get better by helping them.
Glen: I can honestly say that the Patriotic Service Dog Foundation had saved my life.
Speaker: To support the Patriotic Service Dog Foundation visit us online and check out TheAmericaRide.com to find out more about our two day fundraiser in Silverado, California on May 21st and 22nd.
Chuck: Tom, thank you very much. That’s a very great video, very moving.
Tom: Oh, thank you very much.
Chuck: Very nice.
Tom: You did a good job on it.
Chuck: How much does a dog cost these days to get them up and running?
Tom: Well, typically a minimum of $20,000 if we start with a puppy and train them all the way up through certification at a minimum of 18 months, that’s for the purchase of the dog if we need to buy them, vet bills, food, training, supplies just whatever the dog may need to get the finished product.
Chuck: Well this is a great cause and unfortunately I’ll be in San Francisco doing some other shows, but I would’ve like to come down and cover it, but next year for sure.
Chuck: So everybody who are going to go to the americanride.com. Tom is at the best place to find info?
Tom: Sure, americanride.com for the ride this weekend and hope to see you there.
Chuck: Alright, Tom Tackett, Patriotic Service Dog Foundation, tackettservicedogs.com, americanride.com and music festival that’s May 21st and 22nd this weekend, so make sure you guys go down and support, bring your motorcycles, your cars, just show up and have a lot of fun and be a great…
Paul: I’m going to drive…
Chuck: Bring your tricycle down there.
Tom: Tricycles are welcome.
Chuck: Tom, thanks for Skyping in.
Tom: Thank you, thanks for having me.
Chuck: We’ll catch you later, right. All right, back to the case at hand, there was that — I’m buying you a Fay Button for Christmas. What is it, are you kidding?
Jarvis: I was standing to applaud.
Chuck: Yeah, but people don’t just stop applaud they fade their applause…
Jarvis: We will do that if talking…
Chuck: How am I going to fake people into our live audience here.
Jarvis: …just talking nobody will even know.
Chuck: Oh, okay talk and nobody knows yeah, nobody knows that so we were cut off anyway all right so we’re back with Christa now say your name out loud for me.
Chuck: Trinchera, because it’s Italian, right.
Christa: It’s Italian.
Chuck: Author of Blue Line Baby Chronicles of a Cop’s Dad, Chronicles of your life as a child growing up in the ‘70s as a police officer child now.
Chuck: I read part of it and I was kind of pressed for time, but it’s very easy to read and it’s just, it’s just a nice warm feeling when you get reading this. My kids might have a different approach. They might not have thought it was such a great thing I don’t know, in this day, because I was always about protecting them I was like oh, man, everybody is, you know, a crazy world out there, right.
Christa: It’s true, it’s true.
Chuck: Yeah, so tell us about your dad, tell us what inspired this and how you came to write it?
Christa: Well I had the privilege of attending “National Police Week” two years ago.
Chuck: That’s in Washington D.C.
Christa: In Washington D.C. Unfortunately we were there to add the name of a fallen hero who was a close friend. While he was there I was experiencing all of the pomp and circumstance surrounding National Police Week and yesterday was National Peace Officers Memorial Day. So it was very surreal being there and taking it all in, and I started thinking about my dad’s career, and what an amazing career he had, and I started thinking about, you know, policing today, it’s very different.
Chuck: It is.
Christa: And my dad was an officer in the ’60s, ‘70s, ‘80s he retired in the ‘90s, so being an officer in the ‘60s and ’70s, you know, was, we’re talking 1-Adam-12 and CHiPs. I mean they were rock stars. It’s very different today.
Chuck: It’s true when cops drove down my street in the ‘70s, everybody waved at them, they said hi, they got out of the cars they said hi to you and I’m not saying that’s the police’s fault that it doesn’t happen now as much, I think it’s a cultural shift it’s sad.
Christa: It is, it is. I really wanted to document my dad’s career, kind of as a way of just telling the story of what it was like back then. Some of the things that he faced as an officer in that era and what it was like through my eyes as a child of a police officer and we grew up differently.
Chuck: Now did you feel that though at that time. Do you think it was different?
Christa: Oh, absolutely.
Chuck: Now, why so? Besides the fact that you lived in all of the old Redwood Forest that was no kids to play with, that’s why, we’ll get to that part of the story later, but initially what was the difference?
Christa: My family all wore badges. You know, we didn’t have relatives around us, but that didn’t mean we didn’t have family. The officers that my dad worked with, his sergeants they were all our family and they embraced us as such and so I knew that the other kids in school they didn’t have that same experience and it wasn’t always positive. I mean growing up in a small town and essentially your dad has arrested the majority of your friend’s parents that was the negative, but for the most part, you know, it was really fun. I mean, you know, as a youngster I grew up shooting guns and loading bullets and I think in my, in kindergarten, you know, I was in the sandbox teaching my friends how to weigh gun powder, we just grew up different, you know.
Chuck: Well, I remember my kids were very young right before I retired, I used to take them to station, put them in the car and they got a big kick out of it and stuff and they are, some of their friends knew what I did, or they come to the house and they were scared to death, and they were also very…
Paul: Well nice to know.
Chuck: Well the actual sill are as a matter of fact, but not scared from a, you know, not that I’m not going to help them or not, it’s just that, oh he’s a cop and what does that mean and you know, you know, they are all good kids, right.
Christa: Right, right.
Chuck: I think it’s sad that now the perception is that the police are not there to help you and Paul you got the London Bobby Model where police are helpful.
Paul: Well yeah, but that’s changed a little bit.
Chuck: Has it? Okay.
Paul: Yeah it’s definitely changed over the years, you know, unfortunately, but yeah, I mean I think it still is more of a social, you know, thing police power. You probably have that in a smaller community. You probably really got that social power where you are a police officer to help people and you….
Paul: Work hard at the social services really.
Chuck: So, we went to the LAPD academy today for the show.
Christa: We did.
Chuck: Because that’s where your dad graduates in 1960 you said?
Christa: 1960 he was the youngest recruit in his graduating class, he was 21 years old.
Chuck: And then he transferred to…?
Christa: California Highway Patrol in the 1966.
Chuck: Oh, from LAPD, I thought it was one at the middle, so LAPD to Highway Patrol then was rest of his career, right?
Chuck: So, you know, just tell us about him what kind of career he have what did he do, what he work?
Christa: He had a very interesting career. Like I said he started with LAPD, and you know, it was really fun. Especially now as an adult looking back and saying, gosh, you know, my dad was the original 1-Adam-12. You know, he and his partner were actually assigned 1-Adam-12.
Paul: Oh, seriously
Chuck: Oh, really.
Chuck: Oh, that’s amazing.
Christa: Seriously they were the original, you know, in 1961…
Chuck: One’s Parker Center, right.
Paul: You know I’ve got no idea.
Chuck: I think one’s Parker Center headquarters A is Adam it’s a two man unit, and then 12 is the car number.
Chuck: So, that’s
Paul: …watching zeck cars when I was a kid.
Paul: A little bit different.
Chuck: Little different.
Christa: It was really fun later, you know, because I used to watch Adam 12 as a kid, but I didn’t really put to two and two together, you know, cruising it was different back them. You know, he had a 1962 Pontiac later a two barrel carburetor I mean they had some souped up cars back then. You know, they wore racing straps and helmets and cruising speed was 120 miles an hour. I mean it was just…
Paul: Did he say things like just affects man?
Chuck: Well I don’t think so. I don’t think if they got a helmet on you don’t need to say that.
Christa: I don’t think I’ve ever those words come out of my father’s mouth.
Chuck: So, what did he work at LAPD, what was his assignments?
Christa: He worked Juvenile Division, he worked the Pasadena freeways.
Chuck: That was assignment, oh that’s was probably new back then the 110…
Paul: It’s probably the only Freeway wasn’t it?
Chuck: Well it might’ve been…yeah.
Christa: Yeah, after being assigned to Juvenile division he really had a tough time, you know, kind of coping with the way the system worked.
Chuck: How, how long did he work that, couple of years?
Christa: Couple of years, he didn’t, you know, you see the same kids and going back into the same situations that was difficult.
Chuck: Either being arrested or being victims or yeah that’s tough.
Paul: That was bad then.
Christa: That was back then.
Paul: I imagine what it’s like right now.
Christa: Yeah that was back then. Yeah, so he, he decided to make a change and well, prior that, he was in, in the Watts Riots, so that was, that was kind of a…
Chuck: Oh, that’s interesting.
Christa: A piece of history while he was with LAPD, yeah. It was August 11th, 1965, the Watts riots, you know, a 46 square-mile combat zone. It was pretty intense even back then, you know, six days of just absolute mayhem, and my mom was the dispatcher.
Chuck: Oh, that’s interesting.
Christa: With LAPD, yeah.
Chuck: They met at work?
Christa: They met at work, yeah.
Chuck: How romantic is it? Jarvis isn’t that romantic or…?
Paul: Did they meet over the, was he in a car and she was talking to him and they knew or…
Christa: He liked.
Chuck: Her voice?
Christa: The sound of her voice…
Paul: 1-Adam-12, 1-Adam-12. Oh, I’m in love with that woman.
Chuck: Well, voices are very powerful, that’s why I don’t let, Jarvis talk anymore because all the chicks want to call and talk to him because of his deep voice, deeper than mine is, that’s not good, but I get it, I get it.
Christa: Well and dispatches the lifeline, so…
Chuck: Exactly, very important, yeah, you know.
Christa: Yeah, so he went into to meet the woman behind the voice and the rest is history so…
Chuck: That is really, that’s a great story. That’s a great story.
Christa: It is. It is so in 1966, he entered the California Highway Patrol.
Chuck: So, kind of after the riots it was like, you know what a change.
Christa: Yeah, yeah he, he was ready for a change. So, you know, joining the California Highway Patrol is, it was interesting because growing up with the academy and learning all there is to learn about the CHP. When I was writing this book I got to hear some stories that I had never heard before. For instance, when my dad entered the academy he had to bring his own firearm.
Chuck: Oh, well.
Christa: So, he brought with him his own Colt Python.
Paul: All right. A man after my own heart.
Chuck: This guy, this guy is right out of central casting — he’s got a Colt Python.
Paul: Proper gun.
Chuck: A Plymouth two barrel. Yeah 1-Adam- 12, well the guys he’s like a movie cop.
Christa: Well, it definitely Jarvis, do we have the picture of my dad on LAPD. Yeah, he, and he looked the part, he looked the part. So, you know, he graduated in late 1966 and was assigned to Golden Gate Division and he was, he had 51 other classmates that were also assigned to Golden Gate Division and for the first two weeks they worked graveyard shift and they were working five officers to a car. Can you imagine what that was like being pulled over?
Chuck: Wait, wait, wait five officers to a car?
Christa: Five officers to a car.
Paul: What was it or what oh, I’ve never heard of such a thing.
Christa: Can you imagine when they pulled someone over, all five of them getting out at the same time.
Chuck: Well, that’s a safest damn traffic stop in the….
Paul: Yeah imagine there big cars in those days.
Chuck: Well, that’s true. They were –man, that’s like, that’s like going to do drivers Ed in high school that will be pretty [indiscernible] depending on whose driving.
Christa: So do you suppose they did row shamble to see who got to sit with bad guy if they had to book someone I don’t know.
Chuck: That’s so strange. I mean, maybe it’s a, was it a budget thing, what was it?
Christa: They had so many at the time that they were breaking in.
Chuck: Just a high class at that time, oh I see high class.
Paul: So, the Golden Gate is that, so that’s San Francisco, right.
Christa: Yes San Francisco.
Paul: So there’s five people in a car and they are going up and down those hills, like you see on Clint Eastwood movies.
Christa: So, after his first two weeks assigned to Golden Gate, he was assigned to be a break-in officer because he had prior Law Enforcement experience.
Chuck: Now is that a training officer kind of or…?
Christa: Yes and so he was training his fellow classmates. How about that?
Chuck: Interesting, very interesting. Hey, you know, hold that thought one second. We can take a break, Jarvis it’s about 7:30 right. So, we’re going to play a little quick video which is a terrorist update, remember John from PlateSmart couple of weeks ago?
Paul: Yeah, yeah.
Chuck: So, he did a little video for us. We wanted just to chime in here, take a quick break. We’ll be back in a minute Security Guy Radio watch this terrorism update from John of PlateSmart.
John: This report was published by a group called Action on Armed Violence. In this report, unacceptable harm, they showed that over 33,000 civilian deaths were attributed to explosive devices in 2015. This is a 54% increase over the numbers from 2011. This report is pretty dramatic in the fact that it shows that our threat from terrorism is growing, it’s not decreasing as we are being led to believe by other groups. In addition, over 9000 individuals were killed by suicide bombers in 2015 alone. This is a number that is much larger than the previous year. We do know that terrorism is growing worldwide. We know that it’s a threat here in the United States.
We have to look at new technologies here in the United States because ISIS has shown itself to be an adaptable smart intelligent terrorist group. They no longer use traditional methodologies of communication that we can readily intercept with electronic means, so we have to look at indicators of intent. We know that they do not wear uniforms, which is another major indicator, so what do we do, we have to look at technology such as video analytics. Video analytics are great indicator of intent why because they take uncommon behavior such as a vehicle driving around the building six or seven times and all of a sudden stopping in front of that building and then blowing up. That’s the Timothy McVeigh situation.
Had we utilized LPR, we could have identified that situation and said that this vehicle has done this activity we need to start utilizing this type of technology in much greater numbers here domestically in order to identify these groups that would do harm to us. We know that these groups are growing in strength.
We have over 1000 active investigations against ISIS members as of 2015. We know that they’re recruiting in all 50 states, so they are growing much faster than our methodologies by which we can identify them, so through the use of ALPR technologies and other video analytic technologies, we can start to identify indicators of intent and that’s what exactly these technologies provide us. Unfortunately, we do not have these technologies fully deployed at this time, but as we start to deploy these technologies in greater numbers. The technology itself will start to indicate who these people are and will help us identify these events before they can occur and hopefully we can prevent the next 9/11 from occurring.
Chuck: All right, welcome back to Security Guy Radio with my guest Christa Waaler Trinchera, Did I get it right?
Chuck: Trinchera, darn I can’t get the Italian names right. I can’t get the Italian names right. I’m, it’s, I am not making fun, I’m, I really can’t get it right.
Christa: That’s quite all right.
Chuck: I’m sorry, but anyway it’s…
Christa: But you called Waaler correct, most people don’t get that one.
Chuck: I want to get Waaler right, that’s good.
Chuck: Well, we’re talking about “Chronicles of a Cop’s Kid” this is a recollection of your life growing up as a child of a police officer.
Chuck: Who, your dad is a, you dad he is like a star right, he is like 1-Adam-12. He’s in the riots, he’s, what was the other one? He had the…
Paul: Yeah, he had the well I don’t know I don’t know what you’re talking about…
Chuck: No, there’s, three things you talked about that right, oh, that is Colt Python.
Christa: Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Paul: Oh, yeah, no I’m sorry.
Chuck: Yeah, no, that’s all right.
Paul: Yeah, but that I was in, that was at when he joined the CHP is that right.
Christa: Yes, when he, when he came on to CHP in 1966, yeah he had been carrying a Colt Python.
Chuck: Now he was an assigned at San Francisco, where were you guys living?
Christa: Well, I wasn’t born yet.
Chuck: Okay all right.
Christa: My mom remained in Los Angeles area.
Chuck: Okay, she was still a dispatcher with LAPD.
Christa: She was still with LAPD. My dad came down Bolton Park and was working freeways and then put in for a transfer to a resident post in the northernmost point of California on the Oregon border.
Chuck: Oh, by Weed up there?
Christa: North of Weed, yes.
Chuck: That’s pretty north. It was North, Weed.
Paul: So, why did he do there?
Christa: You know they wanted to get out of Los Angeles. They had my older brother who was just an infant at the time and they really wanted to raise a family outside of Los Angeles.
Paul: Yeah, yeah.
Christa: So they decided to go up North, way up North.
Chuck: Well, you know that, that’s in the 70’s and he had, he had a lot of perception to think about it then, because in 70’s it was kind of a cool place, wasn’t too bad, but he could see it coming.
Christa: He could see it coming.
Paul: Like My Irish Uncle Jack used to say, “If God was going to give the world an enema, he’d stick in Los Angeles” He did not like Los Angeles.
Paul: Or, he already is.
Chuck: Yeah, maybe, maybe He already has. That’s great.
Paul: Oh, I’ll just add a walk down there is…
Chuck: So, you were born in this little town, so you are a small town girl.
Christa: I was born in Oregon in Klamath Falls, Oregon, because it was the closest hospital, they had to go over the border to get to the hospital, but yes, it was a small town USA. My dad was the resident post officer, he was one of two.
Chuck: Explain me what that means, to my nieces and nephews.
Christa: Resident post officer is you operate out of your home. He had a division office that dispatching what not was housed at, but he parked the patrol car in the driveway. He was on call 24/7. Dispatch would ring the phone if he wasn’t in the car and he would put on his uniform and be called out.
Paul: Now was there a lot of police, so did he have to a little station in there or was it just a house?
Christa: It was just a house. He did have a small office where he would write his reports and then he would go into Yreka the closest office and…
Chuck: That’s a great town.
Christa: Yeah, and deliver his reports and that’s where he would book any prisoners if he had prisoners he would have to drive them to Yreka…
Chuck: So, your town was about, how far out of Yreka. Hour?
Christa: An hour and a half…depending on the snow.
Chuck: Oh, yeah. The snow…
Christa: I mean this was the ‘70s so we had lots of snow, icy conditions, it was mountainous territory. Lot of log truck accidents and…
Chuck: So, he is the sole police officer for what 1,000 square miles or something like that?
Christa: Yeah hundreds of square miles.
Chuck: Hundreds yeah.
Christa: At least.
Chuck: And his back-up is what an hour away on a good day.
Chuck: If they’re, rolling out of Yreka yeah.
Christa: If we had to and he could call on Fish and Game or Caltrans were typically.
Chuck: Well, I’d want Caltrans. That’s number one thing, I would be…I mean. That doesn’t warm your heart to think that Caltrans is the only, but listen anyway that helps you for your dad.
Christa: Forest service, often times, you know, because of the mountaineer stream he wouldn’t have radio signal.
Chuck: Oh, my gosh.
Christa: So, my mom had a CB in the house and she would call a fire lookout when they have these tall towers…
Chuck: So, that’s right in the forest. Yeah, people live in those days, yeah.
Christa: On the tall peaks and she would call one of the lookout operators and ask them to use their big binoculars and ask if they could see my dad anywhere and just that she could know that he was okay, you know, because he would work an accident for, you know, sometimes 18 hours.
Chuck: That was fatal.
Paul: There’s no GPS or anything like that
Christa: No cell phones, no oftentimes no radios, so yeah, you know, and it was frigid cold weather so he would have the spikes on the bottom of his shoes and all of the cold weather gear and yeah, it was an interesting time. It was…
Chuck: Now, did he ever have a time where he needed some back up and you know, it took a long time to get there or any close calls stories like that, I mean.
Christa: Oh, sure, I mean, he had plenty of issues that, you know, he would well he didn’t really have CHP Backup very close by but he would definitely call in, you know, Fish and Game or Forest Service to come and lend a hand, but you know he…
Chuck: What kind of cases did he have, what kind of things happen I mean, accidents are one thing, but I mean was it wild marijuana parties in the forest or something or what?
Christa: No, there was one story that I write about in the book, where a large bull had been hit by a car and was seriously injured, and so, you know, this was farmland, this was farm country this was someone’s bread-and-butter. So, my dad responded, it’s a highway hazard, so he responds and this bull is, it’s still alive, but it’s not going to make it, so out of respect for the owner of this bull they have to identify the brand, call someone that has a brand book…
Chuck: Oh, geez.
Christa: And call the farmer to come out what do you want to do with this, with this bull, well let’s put him out of his misery, so my dad decides to, you know, put one between the eyes.
Chuck: With the Colt Python?
Christa: With the Python…
Christa: And the bull gets up.
Chuck: After he shot him?
Christa: After he shot him.
Chuck: Oh, that’s a pissed off bull.
Christa: And charges them and so they’re doing a Round Robin sort of thing around the patrol car and he leans in and he had a big slug that he carried for situations as such and he was able to take down this really angry bull.
Paul: That’s a 1000 pound animal.
Christa: Yeah and it was not taking too kindly to being shot between the eyes. So, but those are the kinds of, you know, you never knew he would find, you know, this was back in the early ‘70s and you could, where kindness went a long way, and so you would have a lot of people passing through that, would have car trouble or they would have an accident and it would take a day, or two, or three to get parts in for the repairs to be done and what not and in one case there was a young college student, she was on her way to Portland or to, you know, go to school and she, her car breaks down and you know, it’s late at night, and no cell phones back then, so she doesn’t have any money and so, you know, my dad winds up bringing her to our house and my mom sits up with her and they’re trying to reach her parents and you know, today if you did that could you imagine…
Chuck: No, couldn’t. We couldn’t unfortunately.
Christa: But, you know, back then when you are in a little tiny town and it was all about just reaching out and helping people, you know, it was being, it was being a good steward of what you’re given. So, you know, my dad was always that kind of person he was always going the extra mile.
Chuck: Oh, he is still is by the way, he is still with…
Christa: He still is.
Chuck: All right, want to talk about in a present tense.
Christa: Yes, yes.
Chuck: The same.
Christa: But when he was working in the road…
Chuck: Yeah, yeah.
Christa: When he was working in the road, you know, his trunk was like he had everything under the sun in there.
Chuck: You have to you got to be so survival.
Christa: Right. You know, he had all kinds of antifreeze and you name it he had it in that trunk.
Chuck: Let’s talk about dispatching, right. So, he’s a resident and he lives in the house that’s his police station. When he gets a call he rolls. Is he just kind of doing general patrol when he is not getting a call?
Christa: Yes. He would patrol the beat, looking for speeders, you know, we were near a bug inspection station, because we were near the border so people that didn’t stop, you know, for the proper inspection of their produce or what have you that they were bringing into the state, you know, those kinds of situations. Yeah, it was back then CHiPs was just becoming a phenomenon, and so people would stop they would flag him down and he would think, oh, you know, motorist needs help, they just wanted to picture with him.
Chuck: Oh, because of the TV show.
Christa: Because of the television show CHiPs. You know, in 1977 when CHiPs became popular California Highway Patrol became like rock stars.
Chuck: Yeah, it’s true.
Christa: So, you know, people were pulling over and he’s trying to write a citation and people are stopping on the outside of the freeway to take a picture. You know a far cry from where we are we are today, very far cry.
Chuck: Well, let’s talk about let’s talk about image briefly, because this ties into your painting an amazing image of what public service is and what it should be. Not dissimilar to the Bobbies back in the day when it was all about help and they didn’t have to carry guns or kind of stuff, right and it’s different now.
Christa: It’s very different.
Chuck: It is just. Here is what I think is different. Paul maybe you disagree, I think the cops are the same. Cops are basically the same throughout history. They are all kind of same. We’re little [indiscernible] [0:37:14], but we’re helpful, we want to protect ourselves as all these things going out the same time.
Paul: Well, most coppers get into the business because they want to help people that is.
Chuck: They want to help people, that’s it.
Christa: It’s not what they do it’s who they are.
Chuck: Right. It’s who they are. It’s a very good way to put it.
Christa: It’s who they are.
Chuck: The media now wants to change that into, we are going to define you as something else. That’s wrong. I don’t think that’s what happening, but it’s not a police officer’s nature to really kind of walk around, piss one of our stuffs, so they’re quite maybe and they just do their job heroically, quietly and the media controls the image and does your dad ever watch things on TV now and say, you know what back in the days that’s not how we did it, and you know, that kind of things he miss it, he probably still misses it.
Christa: I don’t think he misses it.
Chuck: No, okay. Forget, kill cows in the middle of winter, I might not have seen it but…
Christa: Well, he only did for a brief time, but when he was ready to retire he was ready. You know it was time to hang up the gun belt. He was done. You know he left the resident post after 11 years and went to air operations. We moved to Redding.
Chuck: Oh, Redding is another cold town, except it is a beautiful area.
Christa: It is.
Chuck: So, you were born and raised out in the woods there up to about 11 roughly. .
Christa: I was, yes, and so when we moved to Redding he was flying in the helicopters. He was the observer in the helicopter, and he absolutely loved that. You know, we were in Shasta County. I mean you’re flying over Lake Shasta, and Mount Shasta, beautiful, but you know, he had an unfortunate experience in 1980 and the helicopter went down in the Trinity Alps, and you know, it was, there was a close call. We didn’t know their condition for quite some time, you know, it was different back then now you have all of these…
Chuck: GPS and everything, yeah.
Christa: Well, and you have these Chaplaincy services that come in and be with the family and what not, we’ve got a phone call from dispatch I mean that the helicopter went down, we don’t know anything. So, you know, after a scary four hours of waiting to learn if my dad was okay, after that my mom kind of said I think we’re done with the Air Ops I think you need to choose another…
Chuck: Oh, okay, all right.
Christa: She was, you know, pretty adamant that we are not going do this again, so he promoted to Sergeant and was assigned to Sacramento to the academy as an Accident Investigation Instructor.
Chuck: Oh, that’s cool. I graduated from Sacramento Academy, it’s a great academy.
Christa: It’s an amazing academy.
Chuck: Yeah, it’s one of the best in the world, yes.
Christa: Really that’s where I grew up.
Chuck: More in Sacramento.
Christa: At the academy. You know, I used to love to go to work with my dad on the weekends, and just hang around and just see the cadets, it was just such an amazing place, I call it my second home because I have such fond memories every time I go there.
Paul: Well, Chuck when did you graduate?
Chuck: I went to 09 Academy in ’87.
Paul: Well, but there was at, about the same time?
Chuck: Oh, I wonder yeah.
Christa: I think he would in ‘87 he was in the Commissioner’s Office so he was no longer at the academy, but he, he’s back in time.
Paul: Because he would have remembered Chuck.
Christa: Yeah, probably.
Chuck: Well, unfortunately it does my reputation does precede me, I want to say. I had an unfortunate incident of during the motor cycle training, driving to the sand pit and I’d passed everything with flying colors. When I got to the sand pit, the handle bars locked, it stopped moving, I didn’t stop moving and that’s what happens…Mr. Happy hit the handle bars and I had a little problem for long. It was a little painful for a couple of weeks and then turned into a six-month thing, so, but a great academy and the instructors were very professional what was really cool is, if, by the way he told me you dad was a motor on top of this, I’d say, oh my god, I’d have to worship the guy…
Christa: No he was in not a motor. He would have loved to have been a motor…he talked about it.
Chuck: That would have been the ultimate, you know, because they’re the prima donnas we get it right. So, you get your, first day at the academy we’re all in our little jumpsuits we had to wear for training on the motor cycle ride and a group was, they say you guys you live there for the academy. We walked in the cafeteria and there’s all these cadets walking around and also this giant hole opens up in the line and everybody’s snaps to attention and says, “Buy your leave sir, buy your leave sir, buy your leave sir” what, the he’ll are you talking about, buy my leave, what? And they all line up against the wall, and let us go right to the front line and the motors could do anything they wanted at the academy people had to get out your way, you could take their parking space. It was really, it was really kind of cool. The only time I was ever actually respected as a police officer, right. I was in Motor Academy, but it’s a very professional organization and I could see we have a lot of fun there, so it’s a neat place.
Christa: It’s really a neat place, you know, I was, had the amazing privilege of, you know, learning to drive my dad, when I was 16. You know he had a female EVOC instructor, who he thought, she would be better suited to teach me to drive than he would, so you know, I had, I had the privilege…
Paul: That’s good…
Chuck: You got to, you got to EVOC? That is so cool.
Christa: Well, the Emergency Vehicle Operations Course is an amazing high-speed track as well as the skip pan, which I think everyone that goes through drivers training should have to do this skip pan…
Paul: Yeah, you’re right. You’re right.
Chuck: I’ve done EVOC twice it’s amazing.
Christa: So, it was really an awesome experience, but after my dad left the academy, he was assigned to the Commissioner’s office and did some time in there and…
Chuck: This is CHP Commissioner?
Christa: This CHP Commissioner and the Commissioner is appointed by the Governor and…
Chuck: Oh, I didn’t know that.
Christa: Yes. Yes, so he was with the Commissioner’s office for, for quite some time and then moved on into the Governor’s office and he served under both Deukmejian and Wilson and worked their details and that was where something really incredible happened, Deukmejian and President Reagan were very good friends and one of the opportunities that Reagan had was to go to Japan to throw out the first ball in the World Series. People don’t know this, but President Reagan didn’t take empty planes, when he went overseas. He took family members of military personnel.
Chuck: Oh, that’s really cool.
Christa: Yeah and my brother…
Chuck: Just kind of randomly said, “Hey, come along and get on a ride. ”
Christa: Well, they, they often don’t get to see their families very often, you know, it was just something that he liked to do, so he invited us to come along at the request of Governor Deukmejian. My brother was stationed in Misawa Air Force Base in Japan and so we had the opportunity to travel with the Reagan’s.
Chuck: On Air Force One?
Christa: Yeah, ten days. Ten days we, there was Air Force One and then the Japanese government chartered a 747
Chuck: Air Force one and a half cover…okay.
Christa: Yeah, so there was a split off…
Chuck: Oh, because there’s, so many people to yeah, travel, yeah.
Christa: So, we went, in the picture that was just shown that’s my dad on board the aircraft with President Reagan, you know he, we were not separated. He came around and interacted with us and…
Chuck: How nice.
Christa: It was incredible.
Paul: I wonder if anybody else has ever done that.
Chuck: You…met President Reagan?
Paul: That’s number 10, he came and visit Thatcher.
Chuck: Hold on a second. It’s a, it’s a Security Guy Radio exclusive. You met him as a Bobby at Maggie Thatcher’s house Number 10, Downing Street. Then twenty-five years later you’re meeting him as the President of the United States…
Paul: I’ll tell you, I tell you another story. When I was working for Thatcher, I actually met Murdoch.
Chuck: Then you went to work for him?
Paul: Then I went to work for him. I made it was only, you know, fleeting, but…
Chuck: …some connection there. You’re a British spy. Almost sure, you are a British Spy, no doubt about it.
Paul: Yeah…small world.
Christa: See that’s world stuff.
Chuck: So, you get to go to Japan, you got to, you know, hang out people in tour and…
Christa: We did.
Chuck: Talk to Reagan’s, how nice is that?
Christa: You know, he gifted all of us with jackets with the presidential seal, which was really incredible. I was a teenager at the time so I didn’t quite grasp the magnitude.
Chuck: So, this was you? I don’t want to go — be in a business plane.
Paul: Who the hell is Reagan?
Chuck: Who is Reagan? I want to go home.
Christa: I’m tired. It was a long flight.
Paul: That’s great. I wonder if any, President’s have done that I guess not…
Christa: Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge.
Chuck: This is great isn’t it?
Christa: Well, my dad my dad had a pretty good relationship with Secret Service, you know…
Chuck: Now you have a Secret service story I think to tell us.
Christa: The Secret Service would often train at the CHP Academy. They would come into town and they would do trainings together…
Chuck: Oh I didn’t know that…
Christa: Yeah and so my dad, you know, always the gracious host would invite the Secret Service agents to our house to have dinner and so they would come over and pizza and beer and they’d start telling stories and so I loved to sit by and listen to these stories. I mean, they were telling really good stories. Some I could never share…
Chuck: Tell us off camera, I got to hear it.
Christa: But, so I, I had mentioned that I had a date that night, I was getting ready to go out on a date, but I was enjoying waiting for my date, sitting there listening to these stories and one of the guys says, you know, “Hey, I thought you were going on a date” and I, you know, I kind of said, “Well, yeah, but he is late” and they were like “Oh, ho what.” So, when the doorbell finally rang these six or so Secret Service agents said, we’ll get the door. [Laughing]
Chuck: Oh, no. Oh, no.
Christa: So, my dad’s just grinning ear to ear, you know, and just, he’s probably thinking the same thing I’m “What the heck is going to happen out there? ” After a few minutes, I didn’t see my date, so I decided to go and check on him and see what was going on and I walked out the front door and they have the poor guy prone out on the driveway.
Chuck: What. Oh, no.
Christa: They have the doors of his car open and they’re going through everything in the car and their matching serial numbers they’re it was…
Chuck: Oh, crazy Secret Service guys with a sense of humor.
Christa: I know, I know.
Chuck: What was that, was this a just a joke or they just, what were they doing?
Christa: Oh, they were messing with him.
Chuck: That’s a big messing.
Christa: For being late. So, we finally… They let him go and his, he was bad. He didn’t open my door for me and that was the whole other issue, so we, when we get in the car, they knock on the window and are saying, you know, “and you better not bring her home late” so I think we were gone maybe 20 minutes. We like went to have ice cream or something and come back. I mean, it was definitely not the date that we had planned, but after that he was like, “Yeah”. He never said a word to me, he didn’t ask me any questions or anything, came home, dropped me off and left and I never heard from him again and I…
Chuck: I wonder why?
Christa: I’m, I’m thinking this guy is probably still asking himself “Who the heck was she that she has Secret Service.
Paul: Yeah, yeah.
Chuck: We should be listening. We should look him up on Facebook and try, Jarvis we should look up on Facebook and try to get him and log him that will be kind of funny. That’s, that’s pretty wild.
Christa: It was pretty funny.
Chuck: Well, but did you like this guy? I’m glad you have sense of humor, if I did that to my daughter that would be the end of me. I would, just be, she’d never talked to me again.
Christa: Well, I, I didn’t necessarily like him after he was so late picking me up. You know…
Chuck: Oh, well, okay. Oh okay. I’ll side with you on that one…
Christa: I like people to be on time and to be true to their word and…
Chuck: I’ll bet you he’s never late for his next date after that.
Paul: Probably never had another time.
Chuck: Yeah right. He’s, he’s probably still single.
Christa: He’s probably spending in a corner somewhere still trying to figure it out.
Chuck: Right, so what did, what you dad do after he left to Commissioner’s office, he retired from there?
Christa: You know when, he was getting close to retirement, he really wanted to go back to his really true love, and that was Air ops, so…
Chuck: Even after mom said no?
Christa: Even after mom said no, but he went back as a Sergeant and so he was not actively in the air, he was the commanding of the, of the unit there, so he wanted to retire doing what he loved.
Chuck: Well, that’s nice.
Christa: So, he went back to Air ops and he retired in 1996 and you know, it was a great career. My daughter likes to say that, her grandpa is a retired CHP officer.
Chuck: Not retired and tired.
Christa: She and I think she’s right, you know, after the long career like that, he really, he put in his time, so…
Chuck: Has he gone back into anything with helicopters now, in retirement?
Christa: No, not with helicopters.
Chuck: He never got his license or privately flew?
Chuck: Oh, interesting.
Christa: Yeah, but, you know, helicopters was, that was really kind of his thing. You know, interesting in that, you know, none of us, kids went into Law Enforcement, but you know…
Chuck: Now, that’s interesting. Were you interested initially or?
Christa: Absolutely, I would, I wanted to fly helicopters. That was my dream, you know, in the book I talk a lot about my, how I develop this crazy passion for helicopters, but I’m legally blind, so I couldn’t pass the physical, so…
Chuck: Oh, I’m sorry to hear that all right.
Christa: You know, that’s okay, you know. It’s something you learn to live with, right.
Chuck: Yeah, that’s right.
Christa: So, I didn’t, I didn’t get into Law Enforcement, but interestingly enough, you know, my daughter with her foundation and her connection with Law Enforcement, she was awarded the Commissioner’s Medal of Distinction, which…
Chuck: The CHP Commissioner’s?
Christa: Yes. This is the, a high honor paid by CHP and this was the fifth one in the history of the California Highway Patrol to be awarded.
Chuck: Ever since the beginning?
Christa: Ever Since 1929.
Chuck: That’s impressive.
Christa: it was in recognition of her foundation in her support of Law Enforcement, so…
Chuck: Fabulous. It’s a civilian award from, yeah.
Christa: It’s a Civilian Award.
Chuck: Five of them.
Christa: It’s just kind of really a great way to kind of finalize, you know, the legacy that my dad created and the just the true honor and respect for public service, and it’s carried on through the generations, so….
Chuck: Now you sound very grateful to be the, the child of a police officer and a police family.
Christa: I am.
Chuck: Tell us why do you think that way?
Christa: Because I know the sacrifice that our Law Enforcement make, you know. I’ve seen what my father has gone through. You know, the hard hours, dealing with death, dealing with fear. These guys really, they put it all out there.
Chuck: The families participate in that, right.
Chuck: As a family you are getting residual blow off from that.
Chuck: You are getting a bad day at the office, you’re getting quiet silence, because it’s difficult to talk about, right. That’s very important to have that perspective of things.
Christa: It is and it’s important to have for our Law Enforcement officers to have that supportive family, to have that support system at home.
Chuck: Did you think you had fewer friends than you would have liked since dad was arresting everybody in the town eventually.
Christa: No, I had the greatest friends ever, because…
Chuck: Good, all right.
Christa: They were Law Enforcement officers.
Chuck: Oh, well, okay. Okay there is another thing, we only have a couple of minutes, but I have a lot of friends and I have a lot real friends, not just Facebook friends, but good friends. You know a lot of them are Law Enforcement not all and that’s a difficult transition for police officers to make, they have friends outside of Law Enforcement.
Chuck: Would you agree Paul?
Paul: No way.
Chuck: It’s not always easy, you know, the most intend to stay within Law Enforcement.
Paul: You know, coming out where I was in London, it was a little bit different because it was so mixed. You were police in where he was born.
Chuck: That’s true.
Paul: So, it was a little bit different.
Chuck: So, do you feel as the child of a police officer that you are, you may have lost some friends because they weren’t in the police community, because they want to socialize with you or something?
Christa: Some of them I mean especially in the small town, because like I said, you know, their parent may have been cited or…
Christa: Arrested by my dad, you know, last night and so they aren’t going to be nice to me at school the next day, so yeah, you know, those kinds of situations happen.
Chuck: It’s very hard to describe to people that aren’t in it, but it’s kind of a unique extended family.
Christa: It is.
Chuck: I mean I can’t think of any of my police officer friends that if they needed something for their kids I would be there just as if there were my kids.
Paul: Well again I think you know once a cop always a cop.
Christa: Amen, yeah.
Chuck: Mr. Jarvis am I getting the finger? Mr. Jarvis give it us the finger, the one minute finger.
Christa: All right.
Chuck: So, we go to fade out. It’s a Blue Line Baby, Chronicles of Cop’s Kid Christina Waaler Trinchera.
Chuck: Trinchera good heavens. I got to burn off my Italian Christa, thank you very much for your time.
Christa: Thank you.
Chuck: Very interesting, to read you guys check it up Blue Line Baby at bluelinebaby.com, right.
Chuck: We get that, and I get that. Here we go. Get the shot there Jarvis, get there all right. You come on again and give us some updates and how your dad is doing by the way. Is he having fun at his retirement?
Christa: He is doing amazing. He is having lots of fun in retirement.
Chuck: What his first name?
Chuck: Dale, you are stud dude. I really think you are awesome. Thanks for letting us to talk about your career as police officer. We’ll see you again next week on Security Guy Radio. Thanks.
Christa: Thanks for tuning in.
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